[ProAudio] AES on the west coast, was Re: Ampex/ProAudio List Dinner

[Bill Whitlock]

Indeed!  I'm with the late Bob Pease on that one. In his book, he has a picture of himself throwing a PC out a second-story window - with a caption "That computer will never lie to me again!"  He was a great believer in real breadboards.  But today's world is very different ... often a little too different for this 75-yr-old!  But there is still so much to learn.
Kind regards,Bill Whitlock


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Actually, it is in the EE program. Everyone knows Ohm’s law, you just have to get them to think about the whole picture, not just the components they draw on the circuit diagram. For instance as Jim Brown says, every conductor is an antenna.This started for me very early in my EE program at Cal in the mid 1970s when I felt compelled to do battle with the (then) nascent SPICE which was supposed to replace EE labs and simulate every possible condition. As you know, it doesn’t, especially when the models don’t replicate performance of the real devices. If you take it by the horns and insist on modifying the models to account for all the variabilities you know about, things improve.David
On Nov 3, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Bill Whitlock <engineer_bill at verizon.net> wrote:Thanks David for solidifying my thinking! Since I started teaching in 1994, I've enjoyed it and try to do it at every opportunity … there are so many myths to de-bunk and explain.Not to brag, but I think my finest moment was doing an invited lecture at MIT about 10 years ago. An EE professor had seen one of my magazine articles and it reminded him that the vagaries of grounding and interfacing were not included in the EE program. The audience, about 300 students and professors, included a number of physics and electronics professors – which was a bit intimidating. Only one took issue with my saying that a straight wire has inductance – but I explained that a straight wire is simply a segment of a loop … he rested his case!Thanks again,Bill-----Original Message----- From: David Josephson <dlj at josephson.com> To: proaudio at bach.pgm.com <proaudio at bach.pgm.com> Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 1:24 pm Subject: [ProAudio] AES on the west coast, was Re: Ampex/ProAudio List DinnerLike it or not, at least the near-term future of AES convention-like activities on the west coast is in conjunction with NAMM. While some longtime AES members and activists see the relationship with NAMM as a mistake and a loss for AES, I don’t see it that way. Despite the excellent efforts over the last few years from David Schierman, Michael MacDonald and others solidly rooted in the west coast pro audio manufacturing community, there hasn’t been critical mass to support a big event of our own. This has much more to do with migration and growth of the industry toward the prosumer and away from the specialist, than anything AES did or could do. The few voting AES members who choose to be involved in governance made the choice to support the academic interests they represent. There seems to be more engagement from that part of the membership than from the commercial side. We can either embrace reality and make the best of it, or complain that it’s not like it used to be. I wouldn’t view a more user-oriented presentation as “dumbed down” at all. In fact it probably takes more smarts to present common impedance coupling issues to nonspecialists than it does to experts. I would encourage you to teach wherever you can and reach the widest array of people regardless of whether they look like old time AES members or not. David Josephson_____________________________________________ ProAudio mailing list ProAudio at bach.pgm.com http://bach.pgm.com/mailman/listinfo/proaudio
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